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One-way MEP proposals

David Hull
In a moment of insomnia, I've been looking at the three recent one-way MEP proposals ([1], [2], [3]).  I'm not thrilled with any of them, but a couple of things jump out
  • A description of a one-way MEP should at a minimum say that a message is being transferred and that the sender and receiver may disagree about what happened (or whether anything happened at all).
  • Not all of the documents do this.
  • Including a state machine is simple and painless.
  • The sticky bit is defining the properties.
Personally, if given the choice between spending an inordinate amount of time arguing over a formal description, or spending an even more inordinate amount of time arguing over "simple" prose, I'll side with decades of computing history and millennia of mathematical history and take the formalism.

Those who find discussion of particulars tedious may tune out now.

[1] is Dave Orchard's "simplified" proposal.  In our discussions it's been implied that the main simplification is the removal of the state machine (though, curiously, the .../State property remains).  Closer examination shows that the property set has been reduced as well.  This is important in that one of the main features of the MEP is that the sender and receiver may differ as to whether anything has happened.  In other words, the sender and receiver have different sets of properties.  There should at the very least be one property for what the sender thinks it's sending, and one for what the receiver thinks it got.

Beyond this, I don't see where this version says that anything ever happens, except possibly for failures.  This seems a bit of an oversimplification.

[2] Is Dave Orchard's "not-simplified" proposal.  It takes up considerably more space in the browser (not quite twice, in mine).  A fair chunk of this is a picture of the state diagrams for the sender and receiver, containing four boxes and three arrows for each party.  If this is complexity, I'd like more, please.

There is also a fair bit of fluff carried over from the request-response MEP.  For example "Once the message exchange context is initialized, control of the context is passed to a (conforming) local binding instance."  Sounds nice.  Not sure what it means, particularly on the receiving side -- presumably this is all happening in the context of a (conforming) local binding instance anyway.

I call this out because, with all due respect to the authors of the original MEPs, I believe it is this sort of statement and not the mere presence of two state machines with a handful of states that makes the document look "complex" in some subjective way.

[3] Is the version I ran up several months ago (well after [1] but possibly before [2]).  It also contains state machines.  It's the shortest of the three, but this is mostly because it doesn't have a short table of contents at the top or references at the bottom.  It also lacks a picture.  With these, it would probably fall in between the other two.

The state machine section here consists of some of the same fluffy statements I don't like about [2] together with two two-line tables.  This is the "complexity" that is supposed to stymie legions of prospective implementors.

This version could stand to be cleaned up a bit more.  For example, .../InboundMessage is mentioned in the receiver's state table but not in the property listing, and in general it still suffers from cut-n-paste syndrome.  It also fails to say explicitly that, say, the sender can end in "success" without the receiver doing anything at all.  However, I think it comes closest in providing something complete and definite to poke at and argue over.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2006Mar/att-0045/one-way-mep-simple.html
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2006Mar/att-0044/one-way-mep.html
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2006Mar/att-0037/one-way-MEP.htm