minutes from today's telcon are now available:
and copied below for tracker's searching:
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Databinding WG Teleconference
19 Dec 2006
See also: IRC log
Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP AG)
Jon Calladine (BT)
George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
Paul Downey (BT)
Yves Lafon (W3C)
1. ISSUE-2: test suite
2. ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
3. ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?
4. ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import
5. ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed
* Summary of Action Items
pauld: Plan to change how we work, we'll collect patterns from the
wild, add them to patterns.xml as 'pending' and then process them as a
batch at our F2F in February.
pauld: F2F planning, we have the dates 8-9th February in Edinburgh,
pauld: Travelling to London is central, but London is expensive and
organising a room is tricky. My slight preference is for Nice.
jonc: could host in Sevenoaks
yves: can't make the 8-9th
pauld: Ok, following week 13-15th in Nice
<scribe> ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th [recorded in
<trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Book room in Nice 13-15th [on Yves
Lafon - due 2006-12-26].
<vlad> i'm not available at that time
vlad will go ahead with the 13-15th, maybe Vlad could join us remotely
minutes from last telcon approved
ISSUE-2: test suite
vlad: had problems with xs:include, propose not using includes,
include the patterns in the example schemas
pauld: are you saying the << element ref="" >> pattern is possibly
vlad: this one looks fine
<vlad> <xs:element name="targetNamespace" type="xs:string"/>
<vlad> was missing
pauld: in the case of TargetNamespace we have a generic issue with
examples which are complete schemas
vlad: these examples are incomplete
pauld: first issue is one which george picked up around generating
static include files
... second is complete schemas don't have the echo element in the
generated echoXXX.xsd schema and WSDL
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas
such as TargetNamespace [recorded in
<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Fix echo examples for complete schemas
such as TargetNamespace [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
pauld: not worried with the TargetNamespace example (coverage) but
includes need fixing
yves: currently working on removing spurious text nodes (insignificant
whitespace) for XMLUnit comparison
pauld: been try Axis testing working sought assistance within BT
... no feed back from outside the Working Group, which is a worry
... will contact some developers directly
ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
yves: nothing new on hosting the service
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron
stylesheet [recorded in
<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Resurrect the generated schemtron
stylesheet [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
nice list of schemas in the wild posted to comments list:
gcowe: continue to use the patterns detector internally
ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?
pauld: took an action, proposal still in my email buffer
ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import
pauld: this seems to be the only way to import a schema into a WSDL,
access the elements from messages and be BP compliant
gcowe: not a chameleon schema!
... could be an issue, i'm not convinced it's valid due to schema
import not being transitive
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100
transitive import [recorded in
<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Craft examples and patterns for
ISSUE-100 transitive import [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
paul bores the WG with his explanation of "transistive"
gcowe: we haven't encountered this issue.
pauld: could be an issue for the Basic Patterns document becasue no
targetNamespace isn't allowed
... suspect we could add this pattern if it's incorrect but could be a
jonc: so it's currently advanced?
... can we craft a pattern to capture just this use
pauld: yes, we can detect noTargetNamespace schemas with nothing but
imports in them
... thinks the elements in the imported schema won't be available to a
ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed patterns
pauld: new issue from George
gcowe: we found some patterns in our document
... currently have patterns but these apply to xs:string, added
patterns for our cases
pauld: three patterns in one issue?
gcowe: fractions belongs with totalDigits
pauld: exercised how to process patterns with respect to the issues
... I've been adding new patterns to patterns.xml as "pending"
... would like George (and possibly Jon) to have CVS access and to
also work from the patterns.xml and examples.xml rather than the
... we can then batch up and accept patterns as Advanced and track via
the ISSUES list at the F2F
pauld: these patterns look Advanced though, no?
RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-101 as Advanced patterns
pauld: OK, that's all for today: Happy Christmas/New Year/Holidays/etc
to everybody, and see you next on the 16th Jan
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100
transitive import [recorded in
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas such
as TargetNamespace [recorded in
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet
[NEW] ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th [recorded in
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