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[Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang

r12a

Comment from the i18n review of:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060518/

Comment 4
At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/
Editorial/substantive: E
Owner: RI

Location in reviewed document:
6.7.1

Comment:
The explanation of the language information data category should clarify that this only provides for rules to be expressed at a global level because it is assumed that it would be unnecessary locally. Locally users would be able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML) or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example 33).


The XML spec acts in a way like an ever present provider of certain global rules defining such things as xml:lang.




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Re: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang

Felix Sasaki

Hello i18n core,

This is a reply on behalf of the i18n ITS working group. See also
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3480 for our discussion .

Thank you very much for your comment. We agreed to implement it. Please
have a look at
http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#langinfo-implementation
.

Please let us know within 2 weeks if you are satisfied. If we don't hear
 from you , we will assume this issue as closed.

Regards,

Felix

[hidden email] wrote:

> Comment from the i18n review of:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060518/
>
> Comment 4
> At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/
> Editorial/substantive: E
> Owner: RI
>
> Location in reviewed document:
> 6.7.1
>
> Comment:
> The explanation of the language information data category should clarify that this only provides for rules to be expressed at a global level because it is assumed that it would be unnecessary locally. Locally users would be able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML) or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example 33).
>
>
> The XML spec acts in a way like an ever present provider of certain global rules defining such things as xml:lang.
>
>
>
>



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RE: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang

r12a

"The language information data category provides for rules to be expressed
at a global level because it is unnecessary locally. Locally users are able
to use xml:lang..."

I suggest:

"The language information data category only provides for rules to be
expressed at a global level. Locally users are able to use xml:lang..."


The 'because it is unnecessary locally' is a little confusing - it can
temporarily lead the reader to think that local language declarations are
not necessary.

RI


============
Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 11 September 2006 01:51
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email];
> [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang
>
> Hello i18n core,
>
> This is a reply on behalf of the i18n ITS working group. See
> also http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3480 for
> our discussion .
>
> Thank you very much for your comment. We agreed to implement
> it. Please have a look at
> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#l
> anginfo-implementation
> .
>
> Please let us know within 2 weeks if you are satisfied. If we
> don't hear  from you , we will assume this issue as closed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Felix
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
> > Comment from the i18n review of:
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060518/
> >
> > Comment 4
> > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/
> > Editorial/substantive: E
> > Owner: RI
> >
> > Location in reviewed document:
> > 6.7.1
> >
> > Comment:
> > The explanation of the language information data category
> should clarify that this only provides for rules to be
> expressed at a global level because it is assumed that it
> would be unnecessary locally. Locally users would be able to
> use xml:lang (which is defined by XML) or an attribute
> specific to the format in question (as in Example 33).
> >
> >
> > The XML spec acts in a way like an ever present provider of
> certain global rules defining such things as xml:lang.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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RE: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang

Yves Savourel-2

Hi Richard, all,

The text has been changed to your proposed wording. See:
http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#langinfo-definition

Please let us know within 2 weeks if you are satisfied. If we don't hear  from you, we will assume this issue as closed.

Thanks,
-yves


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:58 AM
To: 'Felix Sasaki'
Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang


"The language information data category provides for rules to be expressed at a global level because it is unnecessary locally.
Locally users are able to use xml:lang..."

I suggest:

"The language information data category only provides for rules to be expressed at a global level. Locally users are able to use
xml:lang..."


The 'because it is unnecessary locally' is a little confusing - it can temporarily lead the reader to think that local language
declarations are not necessary.

RI


============
Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 11 September 2006 01:51
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email];
> [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Comment on ITS WD] Use of xml:lang
>
> Hello i18n core,
>
> This is a reply on behalf of the i18n ITS working group. See also
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3480 for our discussion
> .
>
> Thank you very much for your comment. We agreed to implement it.
> Please have a look at
> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#l
> anginfo-implementation
> .
>
> Please let us know within 2 weeks if you are satisfied. If we don't
> hear  from you , we will assume this issue as closed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Felix
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
> > Comment from the i18n review of:
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060518/
> >
> > Comment 4
> > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/
> > Editorial/substantive: E
> > Owner: RI
> >
> > Location in reviewed document:
> > 6.7.1
> >
> > Comment:
> > The explanation of the language information data category
> should clarify that this only provides for rules to be expressed at a
> global level because it is assumed that it would be unnecessary
> locally. Locally users would be able to use xml:lang (which is defined
> by XML) or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in
> Example 33).
> >
> >
> > The XML spec acts in a way like an ever present provider of
> certain global rules defining such things as xml:lang.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>