[Bug 27040] New: Use the word "identity" in its ordinary English meaning

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[Bug 27040] New: Use the word "identity" in its ordinary English meaning

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            Bug ID: 27040
           Summary: Use the word "identity" in its ordinary English
                    meaning
           Product: XPath / XQuery / XSLT
           Version: Last Call drafts
          Hardware: PC
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: Data Model 3.1
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
        QA Contact: [hidden email]

Created attachment 1522
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List of changes proposed

Most uses of the words "identity" and "identical" in our specs make sense to
readers who approach them from the ordinary English meanings of the words; a
few uses rely on a specialized usage of the terms which some WG members have
reported is common in discussions of object-oriented programming.  Those
passages make very little sense to readers who endeavor to understand them
using the ordinary tools for establishing the meaning of words in a text, like
dictionaries.

I propose that we reword some sections of our specifications to avoid relying
on domain-specific meanings for terms not defined in our specifications.

I am opening this bug against XDM, but in fact the passages I believe we should
change appear also in Functions and Operators, XQuery, XSLT, and XQuery
Requirements and use cases; some passages in XPath might also be rephrased but
I don't think they are urgent.

Attached is a list of passages I believe should change and proposed wording for
each of them.

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[Bug 27040] Use the word "identity" in its ordinary English meaning

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--- Comment #1 from C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <[hidden email]> ---
Created attachment 1523
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Definitions of 'identity' and related terms from several desk dictionaries

The changes proposed rely on some claims about ordinary English usage of the
terms 'identity', 'identical', etc.; this attachment supplies some
documentation of those claims in the form of definitions found in an
unsystematic survey of dictionaries.

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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <[hidden email]> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <[hidden email]> ---
Created attachment 1527
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Revised list of change proposals

This revised list of changes adds alternate wordings to a few of the change
proposals included.  The original proposals are unchanged.  Since there is no
text in attachment 1522 that is not repeated here, I'm marking the original
attachment as obsolete.

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--- Comment #3 from Jonathan Robie <[hidden email]> ---
Another alternative for XQuery and XPath Data Model 3.1: 2.3 Node Identity

Each node has a unique identity. The identity of a node is distinct
from its value or other visible properties; nodes may be distinguished
from other nodes even when they have the same values for all intrinsic
properties other than their identity.

(Atomic values do not have identity; The identity of atomic values, by
contrast, is determined solely by their intrinsic properties. No two
distinct integers, for example, have the same value; every instance of
the value “5” as an integer is identical to every other instance of
the value “5” as an integer.)

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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <[hidden email]> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <[hidden email]> ---
At the joint meeting today, the WGs discussed the changes proposed in the
attachment.  Some amendments were made to some of the proposals (as recorded in
the minutes of the meeting) and all changes were adopted either as proposed or
as amended.  The list of optional changes and miscellaneous comments was
recommended to the editors for their consideration; changes were left to the
editors' discretion.

Accordingly, I'm marking this bug as RESOLVED / FIXED.

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